Rex Kerr
1 min readJul 31, 2023

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Choice of language is important when trying to motivate people, which is what I wanted to emphasize.

I guess your reply is that "but it is universal and ubiquitous so we really should call it like it is"? If true, that would be a reasonable (if not conclusive) counter.

But can you point to the data that supports the interpretation of theirs that you cite ("[men] still have a long way to go to break free of norms that hold them in emotionally straightjacketed forms of manhood")?

To me, the data tells a different story. The most boxed quintile seems trapped in a psychologically volatile and socially destructive pattern of behavior. The second quintile suffers some modest negative impacts. The entire top 60% seems roughly equally okay (in the U.S., U.K., and Mexico). And because of the nature of the survey, we can't tell if that top 60% is causing societal problems or not.

You point out socially destructive behaviors committed overwhelmingly by men--quite true!--but...#notallmen. So I don't see how that's relevant to my point (or Avery's complaint). Furthermore, on each Man Box axis, roughly 75% of men disagree, and almost half say they don't even think society pushes for that axis. There's a lot of variation here: exactly where it makes sense to not bash everyone but praise good behavior and condemn bad behavior.

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Rex Kerr
Rex Kerr

Written by Rex Kerr

One who rejoices when everything is made as simple as possible, but no simpler. Sayer of things that may be wrong, but not so bad that they're not even wrong.

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