Rex Kerr
1 min readMar 16, 2023

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Fair enough--I suppose this one should go into the "maybe" column, given the different results. The study you cite has a problem with circularity of logic: people went to the hospital because they felt chest pain (predominantly--90+%) and then, of the small fraction who had elevated cardiac troponin I levels (16%) indicating a high likelihood of an actual heart attack, well, yeah, they basically had chest pain.

But this could have been a selection effect--people with chest pain go to the hospital because they know that if they have chest pain it might be a heart attack and they should go to the hospital. This is ironic, given that the article criticizes the large post-hoc studies for having selection effects. (Also entirely true. It's just that we have no reason to assume they have any less of a selection effect.)

It's not a very definitive paper. Neither were the other ones, though. Putting it in "contentious" is reasonable. Putting it in "mythical" is unwarranted.

Anyway, this mostly a tangent, and largely irrelevant to the overall point.

The problem is the absolutism, not the reality of a substantial (but not complete) dichotomy.

"Look how many clustering algorithms there are which I didn't apply, to contrast with Stock's one ad-hoc hypothesized clustering-whatever which she also didn't apply" really doesn't lend itself to any substantive conclusions about the clusters.

The problem is the absolutism. Just attack that.

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Rex Kerr
Rex Kerr

Written by Rex Kerr

One who rejoices when everything is made as simple as possible, but no simpler. Sayer of things that may be wrong, but not so bad that they're not even wrong.

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