Rex Kerr
2 min readJun 2, 2023

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Well, that's easy to say--it's not like I haven't been trying (to the extent that I can manage in my spare time). I am not after the opinions of people who are supposed to be authorities; I'm after empirical evidence. There are endless ways to get pointed at authorities--thank you for the link; those are some very pleasant authorities, and I'd love to hang out with people like that not like Andrew Tate; but they don't help me become educated in a meaningful way.

Again, it's not your responsibility to educate me specifically. But it's the responsibility of someone who cares about anti-(patriarchy-with-this-definition) feminism to make educational resources widely available. Does this honestly not exist? Does nobody care? Or is it actually mostly not based on evidence?

I don't trust authority farther than it will document the reasons for its beliefs, and neither should you. Authority alone would have told us, at various times throughout history, that the black race is inferior, that bloodletting cures smallpox, that the sun goes around the earth, and that Naram-Sin of Akkad was a god.

So, thus far the only thing I've found that seems highly relevant and highly discussed is the Man Box study. It's quite well done, but hard to interpret at a societal level. It shows very convincingly that there is a largely unidimensional "toxic masculinity" axis (e.g. embracing high violence + lots of sexual partners + low emotional openness), and that being high on this axis increases suicidal ideation. It shows a strong association between acceptance of violence and reporting committing it--though there's a danger here that we're just measuring people being self-consistent since there's no objective metric for violence. And it shows that the U.S. and U.K. which have had much longer to absorb feminist ideals, have a much stronger Man Box effect than does Mexico (with the caveat that the implications of the questions in Spanish and English may not have been the same). Okay--cool stuff, but is societal patriarchy driving the problems? It's also plausible that declining societal patriarchy leaves Man Boxed guys with no framework for productively directing themselves, resulting in an excess of anti-woman behavior. You have to pull a lot more threads together to show a tapestry of patriarchy in society being the problem.

I don't want to hear someone tell me how impressive the tapestry is; I want to know how it's put together and how to inspect the threads.

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Rex Kerr
Rex Kerr

Written by Rex Kerr

One who rejoices when everything is made as simple as possible, but no simpler. Sayer of things that may be wrong, but not so bad that they're not even wrong.

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